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00:00:02  [Music] this is a really important stuff when when you leave tonight you are going to have a very powerful agreement that Ron and I just recently put together so it's hot off the press and we're going to be switching around from presentation to documents to videos there's lots of new stuff you get to be introduced to before anyone else all right so tonight what we're talking about is how to deal with attorneys when you've hired them before you've hired them and when you need to find a new one
00:00:45  or just find an original one so tonight we're going to talk about the life that you deserve and how important the choices are that you make with that attorney this is called you deserve to live the life you choose even after divorce and it's an additional webinar that goes along with the one called you deserve to have your child you didn't see that one let us know we'll send you the link I'm your host I'm with fixed family courts and I'm an author parental rights strategist
00:01:15  and constitutional scholar and we also speak on these topics and we will be doing some of our first live workshops throughout the summer traveling from Florida to California doing some here in Dallas as well as in Washington DC so today's webinar is going to be about the top five reasons your family law attorney might be failing you and what you can do about it and you might be here tonight because you're feeling kind of bullied either by your own attorney or by the process itself or feel like
00:01:46  your attorney is no longer working for you you might feel like they're putting choices in front of you that really aren't good choices they're basically telling you to choose from one bad or another bad and neither of them feel right to you so today you're going to leave with a document that you can use as an agreement between you and your attorney it's called a statement of work it's going to help them do the job that you are hiring them to do or at least be clear about the job that you are hiring
00:02:15  them to do you're going to leave with a better idea of why things have been going wrong and no when to walk away and today you're going to leave with a clear definition of your rights so you'll leave this webinar with a list to give your attorney so there's no conf confusion what your rights are what you expect so the top five reasons that we've listed that you're not getting the results that you want right now is one you gave them money and didn't tell them what you were buying you expected them
00:02:45  to Define that for you and Define it they do and two you and your attorney have different ideas of what is a good result and why do I know this just this past week I had an attorney tell me what he pictured the result as for a parent and when I spoke to the parent that was not the idea they had at all three you didn't see an you didn't set any boundaries so I'm not talking about the boundaries that they set with attorney client relationship I'm talking about the boundaries that you set regarding the
00:03:23  decisions that they make and what kind of results those lead to and what the consequences are with what you might be asking them to do we have a slide on that so we will go into more detail on that and four you didn't Define what winning looks like and you w to explain the consequences what winning on the attorney's terms gives up as most these attorneys I talk to that's what they'll say I just want to win they think you're paying them to win you are paying them to win but they have
00:03:55  the wrong idea of what a win looks like number five you didn't tell your attorney what you weren't willing to bargain away so when they're striving for that win or that result that they've invisioned they're going to do what it takes to get it right so what does that mean that mean that that means if you look at the picture on the left they might put you through some threats or intimidation because they feel that you came to them as a victim and that you want them to tell you what to do and
00:04:26  that's what they're going to do even if it means you get verbally attacked even if it means you feel isolated that's not what they're paid for right they're not paid to care about how you feel they're not counselors they make that very clear so they might even allow abuse of Authority or even do that themselves because you paid them to win and you left it up to them to Define it so you have rights and we protect them that's what you think right you think the attorneys believe that you
00:04:55  think that's what they're doing you do deserve to live the life that you choose CH but that's not what they tell you when you're going through divorce I don't think most the attorneys ever told you that you have rights and they protect them they tell you that when you're a criminal we're going to protect your rights they probably didn't say that in divorce did they first thing an attorney said to me was do you have the children on your side I wouldn't consider that protecting
00:05:25  rights so the first thing that's happening is you're handing them money and you didn't tell them how you wanted it spent I mean sure they tell you that they give you details on their invoices about meetings they have with the other side and all this administrative stuff and you don't know when you're first talking to them that that's what it is it's administrative stuff you need to manage your money when you give them money you need to tell them what it is you're buying but you
00:05:53  may not know how to do that this template today is going to help you with that where where else do you just hand thousands and thousands thousands of dollars over without knowing what you're buying I don't know of anywhere else you wouldn't buy a car like that you wouldn't buy a house like that I don't know why you're buying an attorney's services like that look at them as a contractor you are hiring a contractor you need to define the terms so before you turn over tens of
00:06:26  20,000 sometimes a 100,000 you need to find out are you buying to be bullied are you buying to be under the control of the court or your ex I mean literally they sound maybe ridiculous but they're not if you were to ask these questions of an attorney first of all you're going to get the response right away letting you know what kind of attorney they are if you say things like are are you just am I just going to pay you and you're just going to tell me what to do and let the other side tell me what to do no
00:07:00  sometimes they'll say no if you leave it General but if you give them specific examples if I pay you are you then going to tell me that I need to accept visitation when things get rough or you hear something you don't like or you think the other side comes up with evidence that means I'm not the kind of parent that you consider a good parent I'm talking about child abuse I just mean some of them maybe they find out you're a stripper at night and they think wow that's horrible that certainly
00:07:31  can't be a good example for your children so behind your back they may be giving up your rights because you don't really know what all their personal beliefs are so you're leaving it up to those biases and personal prejudices if you don't ask them these things upfront how they're going to keep control of your case how they're going to defend your rights if you don't ask them that then you're going to get exactly what you bought and that's an unknown so are you both working for the
00:08:00  same result well you don't really know that if you haven't painted the result that you want and again we're not talking about hey I want to be primary of my child so therefore I paid them and they're supposed to do what it takes to get that well there's a lot of consequences involved in that kind of picture they're going to do what it takes but it might mean that the judge doesn't decide in your favor and what they're doing when they say they're going to do what it takes does that mean
00:08:30  that they waved some of your rights to try to do it okay so what boundaries were set when you first hired them well the only ones that you really set was that it was an attorney client uh relationship and that they wouldn't discuss what you told them personally in your case but what else don't you need more boundaries than that when you talk to your attorney about your options are you only given that the judge decides if you two end up in court so so they basically expect you to try to negotiate with someone you couldn't
00:09:04  get along with in the first place if you could you might not be going through divorce so aren't they asking you impos to do impossible things and you're paying them for that so you're being left open and vulnerable even though you thought you paid for protection but when you really sit down and write these down which is what I did I sat down and said well what really are we asking them when we walk through the door and what really are they thinking you know that they need to do to solve
00:09:32  these issues they think they need and I've had attorneys tell me this that they need to either run one of the parties out of money or get one of them to to cave and give in not once has any of them told me that they protect rights so under those terms what does winning look like if you didn't Define it and you weren't explain the consequences then you're being asked to beat up the other parent wouldn't it mean that you're basically Standing On Top of others which is what this picture
00:10:04  depicts a win means you had to crush somebody else you had to destroy somebody else and that's generally the other parents so there's where you come in with all these allegations I mean par attorneys get pretty set on winning right so how many of you have been told that a parents been told to go and make anything up try to get the other parent to screw up that's their idea of how to win this battle well today we have a different idea we have a better way for you to present this to your attorney so
00:10:39  that you can just wash all that away give them A New Perspective and if they don't accept it walk otherwise you could be bargaining away things that actually Empower you that give you leverage and that's not good for anyone that's not good for your children because when you're made powerless you don't have any decision- making Authority with them they're not going to come to you anymore they're not going to see you as an authority and all of us know what happens when that
00:11:07  happens they no longer work to keep you included in their life which they shouldn't have to work to do that but they tend to you know develop their own coping mechanisms And when they see that a parent kind of been bargained away they kind of learn to accept that that's that's a very bad model we all know what kind of unhealthy patterns that creates but parents that are put in this position feel like they don't have any other choices so that's what we're here today is to let you know you do have
00:11:41  different choices you don't have to end up with family studies and psyche vals and miners counsel and all these things that have been bogging you guys down and every time you try to fight and attorneys will will try to do this well if you're going to challenge us or you're going to challenge the other side then the judge is just going to want all these studies so he can make sure that he's making the right decision or they're going to look at you as being combative or aggressive all these
00:12:11  excuses right you don't want excuses you want results you don't need them digging into your life and your personal private decisions you need results you need quick resolutions so if you stick on this kind of agreement it's not going to give them room to make those other decisions they won't be confused they'll know exactly what you're telling them to do and that's to say no to those things so what are these ways that they're failing you other than those five things
00:12:42  that I listed they're not informing you about the consequences what you're asking them to do if you go in there and you ask them to get that judge to choose you over that other parent you've just forfeited you just waved your rights to make those decisions yourself or your child their best interest decisions you just waved your right to keep your decisions you made in your marriage private because now the judge has to look at those things in order to choose between the two of you doesn't that make sense if
00:13:14  you ask somebody into your life if you let them into your home to search if you let a cop into your car to search you're letting them look for things that they can use against you don't do that in family court you don't do it in other areas in your life you need to stop doing it here so you can see this list on this slide where what about my child doesn't my child get to be heard I see this all the time so when you tell your attorney that the first thing they want to do is file a motion to ask the judge
00:13:46  to speak to the child in Chambers if that child is siding with you and they do the same thing for the other parent If the child is siding with them that is not a healthy solution for the child that if your child's not testifying it doesn't mean that they're not being heard a child is heard through their parents in these situations and here's why when you were married or you were in a relationship with that other parent you two parents made the decisions for your child even if you differed in those
00:14:21  decisions sometimes because you wanted the relationship to keep working one of you gave in or you know just decided I'm going to do it my way when he or she isn't around and the other one did the same so basically the court never stepped in to resolve any differences and you could have fought like cats and dogs and even went could have even gone behind each other's backs and did what you wanted to do all of a sudden you get into divorce and you think that the court needs to hear what your child
00:14:49  wants but you didn't do that in marriage you didn't do that when you disagreed before you shouldn't do it now and I know it's really hard because you think that in divorce you should control what the other parent does because you want to keep that child's life exactly how it was when you were married but again the attorney is not explaining to you what those consequences are that means you give up power and control of your life and most of you here know right now that was a bad decision and they should have
00:15:21  warned you about that because most of them have done enough of these cases just because they win half the time some of them I'm just taking an average statistic 5050 one parent gets primary the other one's a visitor so just because that happens half the time doesn't mean that that that it's not their job as your attorney to tell you about these things in my opinion my belief that's why you pay them so they can tell you these things that you might not have thought about you're just going
00:15:53  in there thinking you're protecting your child you're going in there thinking well gee my child shouldn't be exposed to boyfriends or or they should go to church because every weekend no matter whose visit it is or I should have the child when the other parent isn't with them you're inviting control into your life so that request right there I should have the child when the other parent isn't with them what happens if that other parent's narcissistic and overbearing and
00:16:21  controlling and you're trying to get out of that they're going to turn that back on you and say well now I want to know where that child is who they're with and they might bother you throughout your entire time that you have the child feeling that it's their right to know exactly what you're doing with that child and who with and if they don't like it then they think they're entitled to litigate or to threaten you more with court so it's constantly it constantly stays stirred up and chaotic and
00:16:50  stressful so some of you might want to consider instead of doing that right of first refusal based on when the child's not with the other parent you might want to do it more in terms of it's just based on when the parent doesn't want to exercise their time for a long period of time not necessarily the way they have it where it you know some of them I've seen agreements where it's just if they're gone for an hour that's ridiculous you're inviting a lot of problems so you may just want to have it
00:17:22  where they can opt to select you or you can opt to select them but that's not forg if the two of you are getting along and that gives a little encouragement for the other side to get along if they know that you don't have to put the child with them if that makes sense that way you leave your options open if they're badmouthing you or alienating you're not exposing your child to more of that if you have equal time with your child there's a reason you want to utilize that even if you put them with someone
00:17:52  else that's supportive of you remember this is this is assuming you're not depriving the other parent of their equal time then you each have equal time to influence that child if you want to give the other parents some more of that time because they're be they're they're being supportive of you or they're not badmouthing you that's then up to you that is always the option look in your orders it always says that either parent or the parent that has primary can decide to give the child to you more
00:18:24  right so even when you have equal each of you can do the same so why ask a court to force those things onto each other and we have some points on here about child support that he only wants them more so he doesn't have to pay and she only wants the children so she gets child support well we talk about child support a little bit later and that is our belief is that child support really should be based on the minimum standards not based on the income or the lifestyle of the marriage that would take away
00:18:57  some of that fighting when each party isn't entitled to an income just because you have an income when it's truly based on the ability of each parent to provide the basic necessities for the child then you shouldn't have that fight like that the other thing the attorney does to fail you and your child is they refuse to preserve error and now that gets back to your constitutional rights if any of you've been in the other webinars then you've learned that you do have a lot of constitutional rights to
00:19:28  preserve and even if you put them in your pleadings and your motions if you don't protect them during a hearing you're pleading your motion then gets overridden so the attorney has to preserve error they can't be afraid to object if the judge goes ahead and orders a psych of Val or orders you to pay child support based on your income that attorney needs to object on the record I object because of this and they need to listen the objection or I object to the statute's Authority or I object and I
00:20:04  believe the statute is unconstitutional I want to preserve the right for my client to challenge the statute if necessary those types of things can be said on the record and they need to be so when an attorney tells you when you're paying them you're paying me to file motions and pleadings you also need to specify with them what goes in those motions and pleadings they can do the legal part the part where they have to put it in certain formats and they have to meet certain deadlines and they have to follow
00:20:36  certain rules and procedures but when it comes to the statutory part you can argue that statutes the judges will assume are constitutional and your attorney will make that assumption so if you don't challenge it from the beginning and your attorney's telling you to wait hold off on that because it might inflame a judge or make them upset what they're really doing is waving those rights and if you decide you need to appeal something the pellet Court May and very often say that you did not
00:21:11  preserve it you did not give the court an opportunity to decide with that and if you wait they may also say that you tried to use the benefit of the statute and then you just threw the Constitutional stuff in later because you weren't prevailing so they may see it as a religation attempt you have to be very C ious about not presenting these ideas constantly throughout your entire case so what are temporary orders for well temporary orders they get in there and they tell you that they're necessary
00:21:43  to maintain status quo but you need to look a little closer at these and so this is another way that attorneys fail you is by not explaining to you one that sometimes there are other options one is if you already have a final staps her or divorce decree then you might have an option of filing for something else if there's a problem going on if you're not getting your child that's an Enforcement issue if you are just wanting to change terms because the child's actually been spending more time with you than what
00:22:18  the order said and you want an enforcable thing talk to them more about what does it really open up when you ask the court to issue a temporary order in the state of Texas when you modify a final agreement there's no parental presumption anymore plus the person that wasn't the primary has a higher bar to meet to overcome so sometimes they're encouraged to put in some allegations so they can immediately tear that child from what they what the agreement originally had and then your attorney if
00:22:53  you're the one being attacked doesn't ever argue that that's a contract that you have if it was was an agreed final divorce decree or even that that that was the rights that the court decided were in the best interest of the child so they don't take a stand like that and they don't frame it in that way so when you're facing the judge he thinks it's just starting all over again and you see many many of you going through just tons of expense because nobody actually put
00:23:26  the case in front of the judge in that way so he's not going to consider it your attorney is hired to frame the case for the judge and to advise them what they feel the proper analysis is what they feel the proper outcome will be according to the laws you're asking them to use so it's very simple thing if you're not asking your judges to do that then or your attorneys to do that in front of the judge and you keep telling the judge these parents can't get along and we're asking you to decide the best
00:23:57  interest of the the child then those are the results you're going to get you're going to get what the judge thinks is good for your child and that's what a lot of you are complaining about but that's what you're asking them to do so I ran a poll not too long ago and I asked you know did your temporary orders change the status quo 71% of the parents said it did so what good was that prior order that you might have paid a 100,000 or $200,000 to get what good was that order it meant
00:24:27  absolutely nothing if this other parent could just walk in and change everything on you so you want to be aware that temporary orders and modifications aren't always the best path that you want to go and you also want to be aware that they can sometimes last forever they can if you run out of money you may never get a final order and that temporary order may be the final order so don't ever think or count on being able or being able to afford litigation down the road I know lots of parents
00:25:00  that lose their attorneys right after temporary order is put in place they can't afford them anymore now they're left to fight it on their own and they were left with a very bad pattern they were left with very bad framing of their keys so now they have to overcome mountains instead of just putting it out there in the first place so sit down when you're looking at how do I get a good attorney or how do I change the one that I have and look at what your values are is this the picture
00:25:27  you want you want to just hand over power and control to them because this is what you're going to suffer if you do there's a book that I love it's the 10 natural laws of successful time and man life management by Hyrum Smith and he says in there trust your own sense of what is valuable not what anybody else thinks I'm probably going to put this one up on our website like I just did the one from two days ago I put the whole link the whole the whole video up there so you can go on our fix familyc
00:26:01  courts.com and go to the second post the Breaking Free from the family court chains and you'll see the video of the webinar I did two days ago and that's what I'm going to do with this one so on the very first post on fix family cs.com right now if you go there after the webinar you'll see that page I'm going to post it right there where it talks about the top five ways your attorney failing you I'm going to put that video right there because it is important for you guys to read through these slides
00:26:31  later because I don't always read them off for vade them and the reason I don't always read them or go into a lot of detail is we have limited time a lot of people don't have time barely to join us let alone sit here for hours and hours and hours while I go over every detail in these things this what you want it to look like when you hire an attorney is this what you're paying them to do it's on the left coercion and threats intimidation so what I'm telling you is when you give up power and control this
00:26:57  is what they do this is what the other side will do to you okay and did you see the very bottom minimizing denying and blaming I know every single one of you are familiar with that using loved ones isolation that's parental alienation turning friends up all of this happens because you are giving up power and control to your attorney who's then in turn giving it up to the court if you end up in court or they'll blame or music excuse that that's what the court will do you want to take
00:27:32  control back over your decisions and your events in your life because that's the only way you're going to have inner peace that's the only way you're going to get your kids back in your life that's the only way you're going to get them to stop forcing things on you this right here Breaking Free of the family core chains that's the one I just told you I did like two days ago that's where I linked it so if I click on this right now what this webinar is teaching about
00:27:58  is about the conditioning that you've gone through throughout this process however long you've been involved in this some of some of you are grandparents you're helping your children and your children have been conditioned by their own attorneys to let them run their decisions so if they want to get their child back in their life and back into the grandparents lives then they're going to have to realize that they are fighting this conditioning and in order to overcome it they have to identify it and then have
00:28:27  ways to address it you can note that link down yourself and you can go to the website like I said www.f fixed family courts.com and it's right there on that page and when you click on the blog post it takes you to that page do parents have rights in divorce parents can forfeit rights right that they don't know they have yet criminals cannot forfeit their rights without being told their Miranda rights can they because if they're not told what happens they get out they get off but criminals they
00:29:17  faced forfeiting and waving their rights before Miranda laws were passed they were passed because so many people complained that that was going on they didn't know their rights and they were just not being told and losing them parents are complaining now and hopefully they'll continue to and that's why we're doing this today so that you have an agreement to take to attorneys to let them know to take this a little step further instead of just complaining that they're not representing your rights now
00:29:49  you're going to show them you know what they are and you're not going to agree to wave them because that's been the problem is you complain you don't have rights but then you go in there and ask them to do things that wave your rights and you don't realize it so you need to start demanding that you have a knowing and intentional waiver of your constitutional rights before your attorney actually waves them for you this agreement that we made that's what it does it has that in there where it
00:30:15  requests from your attorney and it states that they need to get an inwriting from you that you wave any of those rights before they can bargain them away this is a brand new video we made that we're going toce use in training we're making more of these to train parents that are taking our classes now this one's called these are my babies and our our producers whipped it out really quick for us we literally just filmed it two weeks ago let me show it to you very very informative video and it's on our page
00:30:48  in our training site if if you can look at the top but at the top the address if you notice it has training in front of fix family carts.com this is our training site where parents who take our classes which are right here course one two and three they get access to all of the videos that we make and lecture videos and all kinds of other training resources that we provide for them and this is a video that we we have posted to the public as well but some of the videos we make for our courses are
00:31:21  strictly just shown to them but this one this is a clip that the public can see and it's called these are my babies do criminals have more rights than parents in divorce so let me make this bigger for you and these are actors that Mike Melody films.com they are our producers and directors they selected these actors and they're very good keep your hands in the car Supreme Court thinks that even drunks like you need to know your rights so here they are you have the right to remain silent a't you say can and will
00:32:01  be used against you the court of law you have the right to Anor don't worry the judge will decide whatever children TR trust you don't I have any rights I will of course you you always right [Music] now I'm an American I'm their father don't I have any rights have to get on the judge's start making the rugus get the idea that you're not acting that'll open a door you don't Long Walk clearly someone need rights they can't take away equal time with your kids without your
00:33:03  permission and they can't take away your children's right to be with you either they far they be given visitation with marriage so they can't give them back fathers don't visit their children they parent them forget marage is an institution St they can do what they want not true the United States Constitution says what states cannot do and one of those things is to put some parents in a class where gives them more rights than the other until get divorced no the the equal protection Clause of the 14th
00:33:46  amend does not allow states to treat parents differently because they're married divorced or were never married at all truth is the state has to prove that you're unfit before you can treat one parent different than the other that's very hard to do listen I don't know who this guy is marriage is govern dissolving marriage bus of family courts are just cleaning up your mess that is true they have to dissolve the contract his rights to his children and their inalienable rights to equal time
00:34:27  with him can't be changed by divorce the failure of the marriage can't be used to deny those rights see you're one of those state has an interest diving children judge is there really just to to their assets of marriage these are my [Music] that job is reserved for the parents and come on children haven't been considered property in over a 100 years that's right depriving families of their constitutional rights is arbitrary cruelty for the convenience of the judge they can dissolve the marriage but no
00:35:17  one has the authority to dissolve the family they always my kids that changes nothing that is the opinion of the United States Supreme Court remember them counselor that's right my kids are are Americans we have women's rights Black's rights what about children's rights and parents rights the 14th amendment guarantees that states cannot deny any individual within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws meaning it can't give one parent R the other one doesn't have the cause of
00:36:01  divorce it's Excellency that way you have to argue for your constitutional rights now if the court tries to deny them then it's your right it's it's your duty to appeal that'll cost tens of thousands of dollars you don't have [Music] it I don't it doesn't have to this is constitutional law the same arguments that work in Maine will work in Florida he can found them himself yes he can we can teach him how the Constitution is the law of the [Music] land these are your rights you know to
00:37:02  [Music] do can you m me no I'm not a lawyer I had to do this myself really if your lawyer refuses to argue your rights before the judge you'll have to do it yourself too I will get your constitutional arguments on the and the Jud appeal until you get above the corruption appeal until they use the law instead of special interests that's what I have to do no one can take away those rights unless you let them I'm not [Music] let so I hope you guys like that that's the first one that we made that we're using
00:38:13  for training so we can make it easier for parents to understand these Concepts that we're talking about but sometimes it's easier if you actually see somebody acting it out because that way you understand the way that you're supposed to respond back he was actually showing you how it's used when you are responding back to an attorney this is Melody films.com they make these they'll make them for other people other businesses as well just so you guys know but they help businesses make videos
00:38:47  that help teach or if they have products sell their products things like that and so we're using them as a teaching format but I want you to to notice that when the father was talking to the attorney and he started talking about his constitutional rights what did the attorney do he started turning his back on him didn't he he made faces he said turn judge won't see it that way so that's why we use these so that parents can see from another perspective what they're actually going through and then they
00:39:20  watch Ron the character that was playing Ron respond differently than what the parent used to respond before because before the parent would just say I don't and that's all they would know and then they would have to listen to the the attorney saying yeah you're gonna have to do this this and this but now what we were showing is when once you understand your rights and the Constitutional stuff you can actually come back with an articulate argument and we go further which we'll do in some of these
00:39:50  other videos that we make where we'll then start stating the authorities that allow the actually say yeah that comes from Casey and Casey says this and this is why I feel it relates to me so this is just another way to learn these Concepts anyways let's go further into breaking the barriers you've been conditioned like the elephants I I don't know if all of you were in the presentation two days ago but we talked about the elephant principle and that's where when elephants are babies when
00:40:23  they're brought in for a circus they have a change put on their leg tie it off to a little steak and when they're babies they pull and Pull and pull on it and they can't break that chain so they become conditioned to believe that they can never free themselves so even though they're big adults now and it's that same little chain to that state they don't realize that they could break it well parents are the same way they've been conditioned to believe that when they go through divorce they take over
00:40:50  your rights to your child and we do have a post that's called called rights made simple and if you need that link or you don't see it on our page let me know because it's not there's no drop down menu for it but it talks about children's rights and how they did away with the laws that said certain children didn't have rights that was those were bastardy laws which is how they were treating some children as second class citizens so in other words they were taking circumstances that children were in like
00:41:24  born out of wedlock and treating them different than children who were born in wedlock and what we're saying is parents who are going through divorce are now being treated different than parents who have rights who are still in marriage that's where we're getting that second class citizen idea so you've been conditioned also to believe that if you fight back you're not acting in the best interest of your child again that's an excuse that they give you so that you don't get the results that you're
00:41:52  striving for you get the win that they pictured that they envisioned which was just solving this case regardless of which parent loses or gets deprived they don't care they just want it done out of the Court the attorney just wants it done as well so they can move on to the next parent you've been conditioned to believe that if you don't pay child support you're not caring for your child again that's when you have to teach your attorney that that's not the case you have a right to have control over your
00:42:21  child when you are supporting that child there's where your child support argument comes in where you tell them you want to argue child support statute you want to argue its Authority because where are they getting that they get to charge you a percentage of your income and where are they getting that you weren't supporting your child to the minimum standard or weren't willing to in the first place and where are they getting that they get to tell you they can take the time away from you and make
00:42:49  you pay for that time that they deprived you of they're not getting it from anywhere except for arbitrary cacious stand standards that say they determine best interest right so if you've already presented to the court that you determine best interest until you proen unfit or clear and present danger even if they side against you you now have grounds to take that to the pet court and say I want you to look at what I laid out for this court and I want your opinion on whether or not they utilize
00:43:18  proper Authority for this and then they can't say you didn't raise it you didn't bring it up you tried to beat up the other parent and take from them therefore you're just angry that you lost okay so hopefully you see the difference you're not giving up the fight per se like you're not giving in and letting them beat you up and and not countering what they're filling out about your allegations but you're saying I have these rights and by the way you know I'm not a clear present danger or
00:43:51  harm you know so there's there is some balancing act that you have to do but you're not relying on those perceptions of whether or not you're a good parent and I'm trying to explain it really quickly which is hard to do in the short amount of time but you've been conditioned to believe that you have to keep life the same for your child that's that status quo stuff we have the turn your divorce around webinars if you didn't get those you need to go to those links and let me
00:44:18  know if you need them because that goes over how do you overcome status quo how do you overcome undo burdens and things like that your conditioning is you think that when you're divorced now you can't make changes to your child's life but when you were married you had that right so why do you think you don't have it now it's okay too if you want to keep the child's life the same and and but you don't get to impose that on the other parent but there's a caveat to that that doesn't mean the other parent
00:44:47  gets to move far away and interfere with your child and your right to that equal time together so it our feeling and our belief is if a parent chooses to move away and you address it immediately then you can challenge that at the court level based on the fact that they're now depriving and interfering you and your child of the ability to exercise your individual equal rights as long as you didn't let them take those from you or you didn't agree to give those up okay you've been conditioned to believe
00:45:26  you have to prove you're better than the other parent to keep your rights money and your child and we we've covered some of that that's not the case you don't even have to be a good person to continue to have your 100% individual rights which means you can only exercise them 50% of the time but it's really you're trying to keep 100% of your rights and protect your child's 100% of their rights you've been conditioned to believe the judge mental health experts and attorneys grant you
00:45:55  your rights to you for your child that's not true either when you find out what your rights are you realize that they only get to come in and intervene when they think that there's a clear and present danger then they can start doing investigation to prove what they believe that they're going to find so again that's narrowing them down if they think if an allegation is made that's why you need to ask for proper charges so that you know specifically what it is they think that you have done that's a danger
00:46:25  or harm dur IR ly to that child if they just make claims in Family Court under lowered standards then you don't get to properly defend yourself because you don't really know what they're looking for when the judge just says I want a psycho about okay well what are they looking for what do they believe that they have evidence to show that it has to be something again that's directly a danger to the child it can't just be well you're by puller therefore we think the other parents healthier nothing says
00:46:55  you can't have your child of your body bipolar nothing says you can't have them if you're depressed so get them to be more specific even if they push back on you that's why we're saying attorneys and judges they'll get very hostile when you're pushing but we're gonna go over why it's important that you push okay you're gonna have more pain if you don't push and we'll explain that you've been led to believe the judge and attorneys get to spend your money without your
00:47:20  permission and without proving that authority to do so within the context of the Constitution you know why they're getting to spend your money and tell you to pay these gals and do all this stuff because you didn't object on the record to the statute that's authorizing them or you didn't object to and and then support it with the authority from State um case law or United States Supreme Court case law you didn't put that on the record and you didn't stick to it that's why they're doing it if you
00:47:51  object and they still do it then go and file the injunction say I objected on on the record I want I want the pellet Court to review this is this constitutional and make sure that you're not arguing that the state doesn't have the authority to determine best interest because states do have paren patri what we're saying is the parent has the authority first and the state's Authority doesn't kick in until the parents proven to not be fit to exercise that Authority okay so if you go straight for they don't
00:48:30  have the right to determine best interest they're going to they're going to shut you down because we we do say that that it's not in their it's not their decision but when you're arguing it to a court that's where you have to learn yes they do have an interest in in children's safety and determining best interest but only do they take over and utilize that power when there's no fit parent okay you've been led to believe that the statutes meet the requirements to be
00:49:01  legal they will act like that they will act like the statute's Constitutional unless you challenge it even if someone else has challenged it before you you still need to do it too even if someone else failed doing that before you you still need to do it too yours is going to be more articulate than the person before you we learn from others mistakes you will learn from that as well you've been led to believe that appeals take longer and are more expensive that is not necessarily the case maybe if you
00:49:32  have to take it to the United States Supreme Court that I've heard that sometimes that could take two or three years but I've heard some of these divorces and these temp orders trying to get to a final I've heard it take upwards of four five six seven eight 10 years so how can this possibly be more expensive and take longer if you pushed this through and I'm talking fast push it through in a matter of six months do the best you can make all the decisions you can to make sure that this goes
00:50:02  through no longer than a year because that's not temporary anymore is it when they're making those decisions and if you're taking more than six months or a year then they're probably getting in there trying to get studies and trying to put you through counseling they're trying to do all kinds of things that you should be arguing or they're making allegations and they're dragging it out and arguing those by shutting them down and saying they didn't properly plead and and challenge it at the appellant
00:50:31  levels are you and your children's second class citizen this is the agreement that we made the statement of work and I'm going to pull it up bigger in a minute here if you're tired of being treated like you're a second class citizen you need to stop acting like it and I don't say that to be mean I say that because if somebody doesn't start toughening up and deciding that it's way too much pain to continue to be victims to these attorneys and these courts then it's
00:51:04  going to keep going and your children are going to keep suffering so you're in a holding pattern right now and you need to get out of that so you may be you may be stuck in this endless loop of litigation and you don't feel like you can Define anything and you might lose your attorney when you do Define this but that might be better than the way you're doing it because right now you don't have control right you don't have any power you have no leverage so you're going to end up with a bad result and
00:51:38  spend a lot of money so the way I think is if I'm going to end up with a bad result then I want to get it over quickly and as least as cheap as possible right you don't want to spend all your resources at the trial court level if they're going to abuse their power see the larger document and I'll show you how to use this so this is the agreement when it it says company name that's where you're going to put the attorney's company or the attorney's name their address when
00:52:09  you fill these in I'll show you here it's going to change everywhere in the document so if I put attorney Joe then anywhere that it says company in this document it's going to say attorney Joe you'll see it down there later okay and anywhere where it says client name you put in your name so if you're Jane okay everywhere it says client did you see it change right here it will say Jane let me see if I can make this a little bigger each one of you is going to be emailed this template so you can
00:52:51  use it and once you're done with it and you type in it this stuff will come out okay so you'll just to delete any tip it says just click the tip text and then press the space bar so I just clicked on it and pressed the space bar and see how it leaves just a nice red line and so this is a statement of work and you're going to say it's issued pursuant to the attorney client services Master agreement between and now it says your name Jane and attorney Joe now you might want to list the name of of you know
00:53:23  whatever agreement you use I just use General language there so you can customize anything you need to but I usually would just put that it's pursuant to the attorney client agreement and not put any Master anything like that and then you're going to select the date and any date that you put in there so right now we're what are we June we June 10th today I believe now it's going to change the date everywhere in the document well it should have oh yeah not in every because some some of the dates are different so you
00:53:57  have to fill some of those in but then you're going to scroll down and I want to show you the important parts you can look at all these other sections but I don't want to spend the whole time going over that I just want to show you how to use the document you can email me if you have questions this document template by the way I just got standardly out of word and then I put in the scope of work this is where your rights are where I put as your attorney I promise to protect your constitutional right to be
00:54:23  a parent and your child's right to association with you you and to maintain an equal bond with you to the utmost of my ability I promise to argue for your right to equal protection under the laws of fit parent it promise to hold the court to the proper standards of due process equal protection and other constitutional protection by affirmatively asserting your rights by properly objecting each and every time a rule is violated and by preserving your rights to appeal to the utmost of my ability okay that's just the beginning
00:54:53  of it that's the first paragraph then we go on to they your attorney signs that they recognize you are a fit parent who has not been properly adjudicated to be an unfit parent and it goes on then we list your rights as an American citizen and your parenting rights in here I have privacy rights of protect me from evidentiary fishing Expedition I'm reading number three in the guise of family studies or psychological studies into my fitness as a parent remember this is an agreement you're showing to
00:55:23  your attorney you are asking them ass sign okay and it's going to go down and it's going to say rights as a parent as a fit parent I have fundamental liberty interest in the kust control and Association of my child I have First Amendment rights to direct my child's education to directly educate my child in my own religious beliefs my own moral values my own so as you can see we list these all out now where did we get these how did we summarize these we got them out of our book okay so if you have a book you can
00:55:57  then reference pages and show them the case law that states you have these rights but you don't need that in your contract to them this isn't about the case law this is about your agreement with your attorney and drawing that Line in the Sand and if they're uncomfortable with this then you need to walk and you may say well there's going to be no attorney I can find well then maybe you're going to be better off and maybe you hire them to go over your motions and your pleadings we're at the point as
00:56:25  parents where we're kind of at our own bus boycott per se you know when the rose of Hearts thing happened and and the blacks and momery decided we're not going to ride the bus you got to decide to get off that bus you're gonna have to decide that yourself it's scary it's intimidating but you're going to have to make that decision but this is hopefully to help you now here's your right to your child's rights my child has a right to be in the care custody and control of
00:56:53  each fit parent equally my child has the right to equal companionship and or free association with each fit parent my child has a right to know and love each fit parent and then it goes on and on they have a if you look at number six they have a right to be free from unwarranted interference into it it's I put its but it should be their or his or her private life by the state and there you go with they have a right to not being questioned by attorneys judges to be involved to make decisions over which
00:57:24  parent they want to live with even if they want to make those decisions you as fit parents are there to protect them from that kind of heavy-handed abuse of power from the government and it says that right there under a 6A my child has a right to have me as a fit parent assert this right on their behalf so do you see how most of you probably did not tell your P your attorney that this is how you felt that this is what you believe that these are your rights because if your attorney says they're not like that attorney in
00:58:02  that video turned his back when the parent went to hand him the Constitutional stuff and said hey can we use these and he said no that's when the wrong character came back and said you might have to do this yourself so here's your limitations on state action that you outline for the attorney any state classification of parent or child based on nothing more than a change of marital status is an invidious classification and violates equal protection where this classification infringes on a fundamental liberty
00:58:31  interest of parent or child the standard of review is strict scrutiny so there you're telling your attorney that you want them to challenge any statutes that are based on nothing more than you're in a divorce and that you're telling them it violates equal protection you're telling them it's a invidious classification and you're telling them it's a fund fundamental liberty interest that he or she is protecting and guess what that does for this attorney all of that language pops up in case lock if they
00:59:04  put invidious classification into scholar.google.com now they have software but you guys don't so I'm assuming if you're playing your own attorney you will have case law that pops up that tells you that those are your rights to not be classified like that you put fundamental liberty interest in there and some of the parental rights will come up and it'll show you the standard of review at strict scrutiny when you're dealing with fundamental liberty interest okay so this whole list will go take you through
00:59:36  that I don't have time to read it to you you'll get to read it in your email and then you have deliverable materials and that's your pleadings and your motions and you may want a list under there that if you're giving them a set amount let's say $20,000 that you expect that to get you to find trial or you and that means that they have to limit their activity that doesn't mean that they go through and make all kinds of decisions outside the statement of work and tell you that they
01:00:07  need more that means they need to outline and they need to on the primary pleadings of motions not having po Wows with the other attorney or trying to teach the other attorney or any of that I've I've had all that occur so this helps you keep that narrowly scoped and then you've got the attorney responsibilities and then you would write in there if you have any extra instructions for them and then your responsibilities we put in here and again you can play with the words I agree not to be angry with you if we
01:00:46  lose at the trial court level because you presented my rights well I have rights in there twice my parental rights your attorney afraid to take this approach because they're afraid you're going to be angry with them if they don't play the game the way they know it's always been played and they don't try to convince the judge to choose you and they show these parental rights and they inflame that judge they think that you're going to come back and want to sue them so that's it's important that they see that
01:01:19  you are agreeing to not be angry with them as long as they actually follow this as long as they object when a rules being violated when you're due processes being violated then you agree but if they if they go outside this this statement of work then no you're not under this agreement they've breached contract okay so I agree that this could be extremely painful and unsuccessful at getting the judge to respect these rights or acknowledge that I have these rights I agree it's my responsibility to
01:01:48  not get weak and scared and back out of this that's another fear of attorneys that I talk to is that parent will come come and tell them to do something but then they don't really realize what that how much strength that's going to take or how scary that's going to be and if they start to get the idea that you're starting to back out of this or that you're starting to get a little worried about this approach they're going to back out too so you're gonna you're GNA
01:02:14  they're going to respond to you that's their job to respond to you however if I do decide to change course it will be my responsibility for what I lose or give thought as long as this was my choice and done knowingly and with a waiver in writing okay and then the fee schedule you guys may not need that in here um because they have an attorney client document that they give you with their fee schedule and completion criteria you may or may not need that I just left them in there so that if you do want to fill those out or
01:02:49  you want to talk to me about what you could put in there I'm happy to do that with you so that's what you're going to get for statement of work go back to the page I yes that statement of worth that was worth the price of admission alone I mean really great work thank you Mike yeah I think if a lot of people had had that from the beginning they would not have paid many many attorneys that they've paid along the way okay so where do I where do I learn about these rights if you want more
01:03:26  details about each of those rights or your attorney says I don't really know how to do that because nobody's asked me in the book called not in the child's best interest we have a new landing page and I'm just going to go right to my webs that I pulled up right now I don't know how many of you have seen it and it's a beautiful page called exclusively for divorced parents of course parents who were never married the book's good for them too but if you go down there's a warning that this could
01:03:57  invigorate you and get you really excited and then you're going to find out this is really hard too okay but if you don't use these rights then you will be guaranteed to lose them um it tells you some of the things that you can restore by using these rights and then if you scroll down further it gives you all the table of contents of the book and then go down even further and you get a full money back guarantee so you have four weeks if it's not valuable to you or wasn't worth your time spent you can
01:04:36  give it back to us we'll give you full refund minus the cost of shipping so the book provides you with message simplification you'll learn how to stop giving them permission to treat you and your child like second class citizens you'll learn how to say what you want done about this how to articulate Your solution to the judge and attorneys I'm not going to click on this link but that's our parent and child rights Made Simple document that you can print off and also give to your
01:05:01  attorney if it doesn't work put that in your address bar this our training page I don't have this all filled in yet but this course one is what we're going to be starting on July 16th if you want to know more details about the course watch the webinar from two days ago I have slides in there that give you details about the courses the cost of the courses and all of that information you want to enroll in the classes you go over here you click on these it's going to take you back to fix family courts contact page
01:05:31  and then you'll just click in the uh drop- down menu over here so you'll just go to this page and go to contact and I'll show you how that works it's a little fill-in form you click on a drop down menu where you select class enrollment and then you list out the course that you want course one two or three course one is on parental rights and how you protect your child with them and you'll learn how to do case law analysis in there and then course two teaches you how more about how to
01:06:03  integrate those rights also we teach you some mind mapping procedures so you can learn what kind of resources you have and see what your strategies are that are available and what paths that you have available to you to choose or not choose and if one path doesn't work which ones you have and where they lead you what the consequences all those things that's in course two course three is on the little red white and blue book protecting parent child Bond and that one teaches you how what a what laws
01:06:38  look like when they're unconstitutional how to articulate making them constitutional so if you're talking to lawmakers so here's our contact form you would just put in your name phone number and email under subject you would click drop down and you'd pick class enrollment and you would just select you would just type I want course one and that starts on July 16th please send me invoice information like that or just say course one and then submit and what I'll do is I'll send you information about how the
01:07:09  course can be paid for so the course is 12 weeks course one so you can take the whole 12 weeks to pay for it if you want to do that and we can just bill you monthly we just divide it which is way less expensive than throwing away $20,000 to a lawyer and not providing guidelines you get a ton a ton of content just that one 12we course a loan is 12 weeks of content so if you were to sit down and think about how much you sit and pay an attorney you for I think what 28 weeks is that basically after
01:07:43  you pay that you've got the courses paid for you get to go through those courses the lectures as many times you want take as many notes as you want okay so let's go back to so now you know there's a book you can get there's parents parent child rights Made Simple you can give to your attorney there's classes you can take all of this gives you confidence and the confidence is what's going to give you the courage I know it sounds weird to lose at trial so you can win and attorneys we went over this they just
01:08:16  say they want to win and what you end up getting really is loss or deprivation of your rights and your time with your child so in my opinion that wasn't a win for me that's why it wasn't acceptable to me I had my ex's attorney tell me some time towards the end after we had been battling it out for seven years he came to me and he said what's the big deal why don't you just let the kids live with him and let them come visit you that's what he wanted he said I negotiated that this is what he told me
01:08:48  with his wife he negotiated that on her behalf with her ex-husband so her ex-husband gets to visit his children while they live with him and the mother as their parents I said that's not acceptable I am a parent I will continue to be a parent equally that is what I continue to do I didn't give in I got that so you're not winning if you're afraid to preserve error at trial you're not winning if you're afraid to stand up to them attorneys when you don't outline this stuff for them they're holding your
01:09:20  hand while they walk you through the process of stripping you of your rights that's basically what you're paying them to do so if you really strip this down to the basics paying them to hold your hand so they can hear you cry so they can be there to tell you that this is how it has to be so they say they're not counselors but it sure sounds to me like that's all they're serving the role as is just to be a shoulder to cry on when they strip you of your rights strategy is to stop the courts from robbing your
01:09:48  children of you and the financial security that you provide for them and that's through error preservations that's through the objecting talk to many many attorneys and they all say and I've read it in law books where it says objecting and family court is frowned upon because it doesn't allow the cases to move through the courts quickly right objecting is how you preserve your power to make those decisions so you need to object and you need to tell them to object it's going to be uncomfortable for them well this
01:10:22  whole process is uncomfortable for you so tell them to go cry on someone else's shoulder this includes objecting to the Court's findings so at the end you need them to object you need to object to certain types of evidence you need to object to clarifications that they make that's contradictory to your facts you need to object to being treated as second class citizen to being held to different standards to being held to different definitions to ignoring your contract and not following contract law
01:10:50  if you had a final divorce decree and they came in and did a modification and did attemp order you need to object to being subject to religation in the guise of a modification when the order wasn't appealed by the other party so let's say that you you had primary of your child and the other party came in after they had agreed to giving that to you and they came in and got a temporary order and took that away from you you need to object because that's really another form of Rel litigation isn't it so
01:11:19  unless they prove that all of a sudden you know you were a danger or you you know and and you could you could if they were arguing that they had parental rights and they didn't know about it that might be a different kind of argument but if they're just coming in saying Hey I want to show that you're a crappy parent and I don't like the way you've been raising them and but it doesn't rise to the level of child abuse or anything like that then you need to be objecting because they certainly
01:11:43  would object to you if you tried to come in and challenge that order right but what is it when they file a modification they're challenging that final order so that's just another thing to think about if they get hostile they're angry that you called their Bluff they're angry that you're making them uncomfortable but remember they're making you uncomfortable don't make it so easy on them anymore so what are you ultimately doing you're paying for pain and I have what's
01:12:12  called a try equation that I got from that hron Smith's book that I mentioned earlier and I took and I made an acronym for pain because he doesn't actually have the acronym for pain he has the tri equation which I'll show you in a minute so what I like to look at this as is if you want to get control of your life again you want to overcome these hostile attorneys and judges and not let it bother you anymore you want to take control over your events again you want to increase your productivity because when they
01:12:40  control your events and you're bouncing all over the place what happens many of you can't work many of you go through PTSD and depression and what happens to the productivity in your life it plummets some some some of you your lives have been completely destroyed so if you want to increase productivity you got to start paying for pain that means that you need to get the tools that help you adapt that give you inner peace because once you adapt once you increase that productivity because you've gotten
01:13:09  control over your events which is what you're going to do with the statement of work when you draw these boundaries you're going to feel like you're in control because you are you're not going to feel like they're just shoving you around everywhere and shuttling you through and stucking you dry of all of your resources your productivity will go up you will know the decisions to make you've already outlined it you don't have to keep revisiting that so you will be more adaptable to your circumstances
01:13:36  that are right for you you will have inner peace and then you will have negotiation leverage that's what I mean by paying for pain okay and you can look at hron Smith's book and he'll talk to you more about that Tri equation unfortunately I don't have time to go through it but the key is confidence and like I said you have the parental rights Academy available to you I just happened to list the classes here we're not going to go over them right now and what's coming up next and this is the
01:14:06  end of our presentation so we're just about wrapping it up and that is these are the resources from our pictures I'm going to come back over to you guys real quick so anybody have questions real quick we can take a couple more minutes I notice some people here that like they said they were completely shattered and I I believe it I believe it that's that's exactly why we're telling you I know for some of you you wish that that this came before him because they've already devastated you but there's no
01:14:36  time like today you know start from wherever you're at and I know Mike you're you're like way way down that road but I know I know that you've noticed that I think you've gotten more confident and that's part of the reason why some of the attorneys don't respond to you because you finally got tired of putting up with their crap right and so you've had to figure out how to do it and nobody's saying that it's easy but I think it's harder to let them beat you
01:15:01  up and drag you through this for years and years and years getting deal with in your own in your own skin and in in my particular case this late in the game um kind of Bittersweet you know I mean it's it's just you see it for what it is and you see it for what I've I've put up with from previous attorneys and and courts in the past um what we were discussing on the side which you can't read a lot of what they're typing in for whatever reason but one of the things we were discussing was U boy it be it's so
01:15:32  much better to get this right from the start if you're new to this exercise these things right from the start some people were wondering about the the the sign up for the course is in July correct no they can sign up now and that way they can extend their payments out too if they just pick one class because they have to be done paying for the class by the time we end the class in order to get the completion stuff and the templates um so they can sign up right now and then that will get them
01:16:00  into the the special part of the webinar I mean the workshops and so send send an email immediately and I'll send them those dates the class doesn't actually start until July 16th just contact you direct they can contact you direct with any any questions um there was a somebody said they wanted to get the 28 week course uh they wanted to know if they have to sign up in order to view um this particular webinar and any previous webinars um because they enrolled for this one they they are welcome to have
01:16:33  the all the other webinars so I'm trying to get the rest of them packaged up on pages but if they have an interest right now like they say Hey you mentioned turn your divorce around series I have those they just send me an email I'll send them link and there'll be a link where they're all going to be easily accessible to everyone yeah yeah I I wanted to point out something that uh one of the parents said in here christe she said the the attorneys scream at you for crying and call you unstable that is
01:17:03  really really true and that's another way that they bully you and they beat you down they act like you're not behaving normally you are being attacked of course you're stressed out and you're freaking out so instead of considering that you're being ripped from your children or ripped from property or money or whatever's going on in your life they just automatically want you to do as they tell you to do and if you're losing it then they don't feel like they're in control and that scares them
01:17:38  so they're really be they're responding that way to you Christie because it's scaring them they want to continue to tell you what to do and Def find things for you and you might get frustrated with them and scream at them because you get a bad feeling about what they're doing and that's an indicator to you that you're going to have to move on and it's going to be scary and some of you may have already paid your attorney a lot of money you need to cut your losses you really really do I don't see good
01:18:08  results coming out of sticking around trying to you know some of you think well I need to stick it out what are you g to stick out drain yourself some more what happens when you run out of money the attorney's going to bail on you anyways so just it's time to cut your losses just made a really important comment before we wrap this up and that's she objected in court her attorney asked to speak with her dragged her out of the courtroom screamed at her marched her back in and then she settled
01:18:38  well that's why it's important to address this with your attorney in advance that's why this statement of work is so valuable and important and if you address it with them ADV in advance and they disagree with it that's when you march right out of their office with your money and to give it to someone else or to learn it on your own okay and we do need to wrap up so I appreciate you guys I appreciate you Mike thanks for moderating this for us and made it so much better and I'll see you guys all
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